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Thanks for tuning in! This podcast is a labor of love. And my way of restoring a little civility in the world. 


Sep 29, 2020

A candid conversation between a law enforcement officer and a young, activist journalist. This is an honest, at times tense conversation, and the most important podcast I’ve produced. I am grateful to Steve and Raven for agreeing to go deep over an issue that’s causing a deep rift in our country. 

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